Before I jump into this episode with our special guest, I want to give a shout out to a few people who have made a difference to my life this year.

First off all I’d like to give a shout out to all the sponsors who ran ads with us, became a patron, hired me to train or coach teams through This is HCD. This is part of how we keep our heads above water folks - and it’s how I can keep producing the podcast.

I’d like to personally thank a few people as it’s the season for reflection. First off all, Lisa, my EA who works with me to make everything happen work wise for me, all the editors on the podcast, Jakob Schneider, Adrienne Tan, Rachael Dietkus for being awesome friends and supporter of all that I do who encourage me to keep going and helping give me the strength to continue doing what I do. My wife Vicki, who provides me with all the love in the world.

And of course, to you, the listener. The person who none of this would be possible if you didn’t listen in and help share the word to people.

Thanks again for everything and signing off for 2022 with more so many incredible episodes lined up.

Any ideas who the special guest is?

I will give you a clue. They are truly awesome - and one of my heroes in Design. They wrote a book that is bright orange. It’s called Good Services.

Welcome, Lou Downe folks…

Let’s jump in…

Christmas Special 2022 with special guest

Lou Downe

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